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Click below for the various parts of this series on New Ager Roma Downey (and husband Mark Burnett):

Like Oprah, New Agers Roma Downey and hubby Mark Burnett now falsely claiming they’re Christians – why?

Roma Downey’s comments about “Touched by an Angel” show she is not a Christian as she claims, but a New Ager

Roma Downey’s comments about her ties with New Thought/New Ager Della Reese  show Downey is not a Christian as she claims, but a New Ager

Roma Downey’s comments about her “Little Angels” series show she is not a Christian as she claims, but a New Ager

Roma Downey’s comments about her New Age “Spiritual Psychology” degree show she is not a Christian as she claims, but a New Ager

NEW: Roma Downey’s comments and connections with psychic medium John Edward show she is not a Christian as she claims, but a New Ager

Roma Downey’s comments about her theology show she is not a Christian as she claims, but a New Ager

Roma Downey’s comments about her “biographical trivia” show she is not a Christian as she claims, but a New Ager

NEW: New blogs I’m working on, showing in Downey and Burnett’s own words that they are not Christians as they claim, but New Agers

Note – all above blogs © 2012-2014 Dave Mosher, all rights reserved. Excerpts may be quoted up to 300 words, as long as credit is given to my original blogs and links are provided to my original blogs. Thank you.
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(revised 03/21/13)

New blogs I’m working on, showing in Downey and Burnett’s own words that they are not Christians as they claim, but New Agers

I’m finding more documentation that Downey (and hubby Mark Burnett) are not born again Christians as they claim, but today are still New Agers. I’m hoping to incorporate this newly found documentation into new blogs. I will list these proposed blogs below, but first, some comments:

Some viewers of “The Bible” may think Downey has changed – that she was New Age but is now a born again Christian. NOT! For one, Downy and her hubby are both claiming that Downey has been a “person of faith” all her life. Yet, even today there is no mention of a conversion experience in Downey’s life.

Up until Downey’s 2010 graduation from the University of Santa Monica (with a degree in New Age “Spiritual Psychology”), one could find many references to Downey being New Age. Actually,  her so-called “Christian faith”/spiritual journey seems to be an occult New Age smorgasboard of Roman Catholicism, Celtic “Christianity”, Della Reese (New Thought), John Edward (Rosary-praying psychic medium), John-Rogers (New Age), Eckhard Tolle (New Age), etc. Not to mention a New Age obsession with “angels” (who in “Touched by an Angel” never mention our Lord Jesus Christ) and “miracles” (in the “It’s a Miracle” TV series these mostly consist of occult manifestations).

On top of all this, in recent years Downey (and her hubby) seem to have adopted theological bits and pieces from Joel Osteen (evangelical prosperity gospel, positive thinking), Rick Warren (evangelical seeker sensitive, global P.E.A.C.E. Plan), T.D. Jakes (evangelical prosperity gospel, hints of Jesus-Only/Oneness Pentecostalism), etc.

So where does Downey stand today? I do not believe she is a born again Christian as she has claimed recently. (In  various interviews, she’s maintained that she’s known Jesus all her life, that she’s born again, and that she’s accepted Jesus as her Saviour.) Yet nowhere have I heard Downey mentioning a conversion to true Christianity – repenting of 53 years of an ungodly New Age mishmash, being born again, accepting Christ as her Saviour so she won’t spend eternity in Hell/the Lake of Fire.

Now on to the new blogs I’m working on for this series:

New Blog #1) Why are New Agers endorsing “The Bible” miniseries? – Many New Agers love “The Bible”. Examples: 1) psychic medium John Edward (a good friend of Downey’s) tweeted his endorsement of the miniseries, 2) this New Age blogger recommends the miniseries, 3) various articles refer to Oprah Winfrey (who is New Age) tweeting her enthusiastic endorsement of  “The Bible”.

I was puzzled at first – why did Roma Downey feel so compelled to produce “The Bible” miniseries, having received a New Age Spiritual Psychology degree? Why is someone so into New Age teachings so obsessed with sharing the Bible? It just doesn’t make sense. Unless perhaps she wants to share New Age themes she sees in the Bible. (After all, there are many unbiblical points in the miniseries.) Two obviously New Age themes are an overemphasis on angels (reminiscent of “Touched by an Angel”), and an overemphasis on miracles (reminiscent of Downey’s hosting some  “It’s a Miracle” episodes – and perhaps with hints of “A Course in Miracles”).

I believe the key can be found in how New Agers interpret the Bible.  Check out this Christian discernment article  – an introduction to New Age interpretations of the Bible. Perhaps a study of John-Roger (born Roger Delano Hinkins) and his New Age interpretations of the Bible will show more subtle New Age themes in “The Bible” miniseries. (Downey graduated from John-Roger’s New Age school). For more information on John-Rogers and his movement, see this Christian article . Also, see my blog on Downey’s New Age Spiritual Psychology degree here.

Even if “The Bible” was not produced with an exclusively New Age agenda, it was definitely produced with an ecumenical, interfaith bias. It is a watered down Bible, reducing Christ in many places to merely a great man – not the God-Man, the Son of God, the second Person of the Trinity, our Saviour. “The Bible” pleases everyone (except born again Christians) and offends no one (except born again Christians).

New Blog #2) In “The Bible” miniseries itself – the portrayal of angels: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1YhLpDv7PE Clips like this remind me of Downey’s New Ageish “Touched by an Angel” TV series. (It has always shocked me that the angels in “Touched by an Angel” never mention Jesus.)

Again, in “The Bible” miniseries itself: Downey and Burnett’s claims of three miracles while filming – see http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/03/11/3-real-life-miracles-that-took-place-on-the-set-of-the-bible/ The original article (with different photos) can be found here: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2291441/The-Bible-Blockbusters-producer-claims-miracles-took-place-set.html I believe these are just as likely three counterfeit miracles from the Enemy of our souls, making these ungodly people think the miracles are from God. How can there be miracles from God on set, when the producers are New Age and the actors are nonchristians? In Jesus’ ministry, one of the purposes of miracles was to verify His authenticity; Downey and Burnett’s “ministry” is not authentically Christian.

Remember when Downey hosted various episodes of “It’s a Miracle” (see proposed blog below)? Downey seems to call every supernatural phenomena a “miracle” – whether it is from God or from Satan and his minions.

New Blog #3) Their 100-day devotional book based on “The Bible”. Many days have New Ageish lingo if read very closely. Here is the Amazon link: http://www.amazon.com/Story-God-All-Reflections-Inspirations/dp/1455525677/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1363010459&sr=8-1&keywords=the+bible+reflections+downey

New Blog #4) “Christian” Roma Downey hosting demonic “Touched by an Angel” marathon on GMC … on Easter Sunday 2013. (When the listing becomes available, I plan to list the episodes of TBAA being shown.) If she were truly born again, Downey would certainly have wisdom, common sense,  and biblical discernment. She would realize how irreverent/blasphemous it is to host TBAA on – of all days – a Christian “holy day”. (I oppose Catholicism – I’m trying to come up with a term more appropriate than “holy day”.) Want proof that TBAA has a demonic theme in its 212 episodes? As mentioned above, throughout  the series, the “angels” never mention the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. This is a trait of demonic angels, not heavenly angels. Yet even today Downey continues to praise the TBAA episodes, maintaining she and the other “angels” did a wonderful thing by bringing viewers God’s word (small w, I say).

In a commercial on GMC March 13 and other days in March 2013, Downey says, “Hello, this is Roma Downey encouraging you to gather your family for a very special “Touched by an Angel” marathon [clip inserted of "angel"/New Thought minister Della Reese saying "and that oughtta be good"] – a full day featuring some of my fondest show memories and a collection of episodes that will remind us all what Easter is really about” [clip inserted of "angel" Della Reese saying "miracles happen around you every day", then guest star Valerie Bertinelli responds "Amen"]. Join me for Miracle Sunday.” GMC then makes an announcement: “All day this Easter, leading up to the GMC World Premiere Movie, “The Carpenter’s Miracle” [another occult/New Age show] at 7.” Downey then closes the commercial, quoting GMC’s motto, “Uplifting Entertainment”.

First of all, does “born again” Christian Roma Downey really believe TBAA – which never mentions our Lord Jesus Christ – reminds of us of what Resurrection Day is really about? (Unless of course Downey is not a born again Christian, but actually a New Ager.) And second, GMC started out as “Gospel Music Channel” – why are they now showing the “non-heavenly angel”/”occultish miracle” genre of TV shows?

New Blog #5) Roma Downey’s comments on hosting various episodes of  “It’s a Miracle” from 2003-2004.  Click here for details on this TV series. And click here for a list of the episodes; I’m trying to determine which of the 267 episodes Downey hosted. Born again Christians viewing this TV series believe most of the “miracles” were not from God but were demonic, occult manifestations (ESP, psychic mediums, past life experiences, astral travel, etc.).

New Blog #6) Roma Downey’s comments about her music (which is New Age). Click here for her discography.

I am currently in the process of adding more info to this blog – keep  checking back. And thank you for your patience. New info on Roma Downey and hubby Mark Burnett is coming out almost daily – it’s hard to keep up with!

© 2012-2014 Dave Mosher, all rights reserved. Excerpts may be quoted up to 300 words, as long as credit is given to my original blogs and links are provided to my original blogs. Thank you.

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Click below for the various parts of this series on New Ager Roma Downey (and husband Mark Burnett):

Like Oprah, New Agers Roma Downey and hubby Mark Burnett now falsely claiming they’re Christians – why?

Roma Downey’s comments about “Touched by an Angel” show she is not a Christian as she claims, but a New Ager

Roma Downey’s comments about her ties with New Thought/New Ager Della Reese  show Downey is not a Christian as she claims, but a New Ager

Roma Downey’s comments about her “Little Angels” series show she is not a Christian as she claims, but a New Ager

Roma Downey’s comments about her New Age “Spiritual Psychology” degree show she is not a Christian as she claims, but a New Ager

NEW: Roma Downey’s comments and connections with psychic medium John Edward show she is not a Christian as she claims, but a New Ager

Roma Downey’s comments about her theology show she is not a Christian as she claims, but a New Ager

Roma Downey’s comments about her “biographical trivia” show she is not a Christian as she claims, but a New Ager

NEW: New blogs I’m working on, showing in Downey and Burnett’s own words that they are not Christians as they claim, but New Agers

Note – all of the above articles are copyright Dave Mosher, all rights reserved. Excerpts may be quoted up to 300 words, as long as credit is given to my original blogs and links provided to my original blogs. Thank you.
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(revised 02/19/14)

Roma Downey’s comments and connections with psychic medium John Edward show she is not a Christian as she claims, but a New Ager

Shortly after “The Bible” TV miniseries came out, Whoopi Goldberg on The View mentioned that psychic John Edward had endorsed the movie. Whoopi seemed baffled as to why Edward would endorse the movie. To find the answer, I Googled on the the search string ["Roma Downey" "John Edward"].

I guess it should come as no surprise – I stumbled across several articles connecting self-proclaimed “Christian” Roma Downey with psychic medium John Edward. The Bible condemns occult practices such as those of John Edward. Seems to me this is powerful proof Downey is not a Christian as she claims, but a New Ager.

So far I have found two articles detailing Downey’s connections with Edward. I have reposted them verbatim below, to document these connections. I have emphasized certain points by bolding, and inserted comments in [brackets].

Exhibit #1
Roma’s TV chat to dead mother [in 2002](click here for the original source of this article)

Byline: DREW MacKENZIE in New York

ACTRESS Roma Downey has talked to her mother through a psychic on live TV.

The Derry-born Touched By An Angel star was a guest on a celebrity version of the US psychic show Crossing Over, hosted by medium John Edward.

Roma’s mother Maureen died of a heart attack in Derry when she was 10.

And Roma was heartbroken that she was never able to tell her how much she loved her.

So she jumped at an offer from the producers of the show on the Sci-Fi Channel to speak to her mum using Edwards for the connection.

Downey sat directly behind Edwards during the programme and he did not know who the celebrity he was speaking to was until he turned around at the end of the segment.

He was able to tell that the 41-year-old actress was caught in a hail of gunfire during an IRA gun battle 30 years ago which almost killed her.

Facing the audience, he said: “I hear you crying. I hear some sort of popping.

“The sort of popping I am hearing would mean there is some sort of gunfire or like someone was caught in a spray of bullets.”

And referring to the celebrity’s mother, he said: “She [the spirit of her mother] was commending and applauding what you do and how you do it.”

Roma said: “My mother was telling me that she was very proud of me and my work, it just made me want to weep.”

The psychic show will be aired in America tomorrow night.

CAPTION(S):

SEANCE: Downey

Exhibit #2
Roma Downey develops rosary concept with John Edward, includes her rosary CD in his book

Note: this Amazon link to the first edition includes a “Look Inside” link to read various pages online

And a reader comment on the second edition of the book (which also includes Downey’s CD) states: “John Edward came out with this brilliant concept with Roma Downey”.

Practical Praying: Using the Rosary to Enhance Your Life (click here for the original source of the article below)

Roma prays the entire rosary on the beautiful CD that comes along with this book. It’s quite lovely and gives you the special opportunity and a unique spiritual closeness to Roma to be able to pray right along with her as if she was right there at your side.

The book above by well-known author John Edward was published in April [2005]. Practical Praying is divided into three sections; the first includes Edward’s thoughts about writing the book and his own personal approach to prayer, as well as the history of the rosary in the Catholic Church. The second section discusses usage of the power of prayer through the rosary. The last section is the audio CD, which the author says is “one of my favorite parts of the book. It’s unbelievably beautiful.” Roma Downey refused to accept pay for her work, instead asking Edward to make a donation to Operation Smile in her name “so she could pay for more smiles,” he said.

You might enjoy purchasing one of Roma’s beautiful rosaries from her collection at QVC to use when listening to Roma’s beautiful voice or you may use them and pray the rosary with her.

For those that may be surprised that John Edward wrote a book all about the use of the rosary in your life, you may feel differently after reading a recent article Praying the Rosary [link not included] John Edward’s new book details his favorite ‘weapon of spiritual defense’ that ran recently in The Catholic Telegraph. Click on the link [broken link] to The Catholic Telegraph to read the full article. Although to many, including some Catholic clergy, they are not surprised at all. During the run of his popular [psychic medium] show, he always promoted the use of the rosary and shared that he prayed it daily. John Edward is an Irish-Italian Catholic. In regards to this specific book and his promotion of the rosary, he even received recently a papal blessing, signed by the current pope when he was still Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, head of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. [Wow - I'd like to research this further - the Pope is "God's man on Earth." All his decrees are (supposedly) infallible - yet he gave his blessing to Edward's book??? Shocking.] The book has become quite popular with Catholics and non-Catholics alike.

Conclusion and thoughts

I’m wondering if Edward and Downey received some of their Rosary concepts from the teachings of New Ager Elizabeth Clare Prophet, who also developed her own brand of the Rosary back in 1972. Click here for a description of  “the New Age  Scriptural Rosaries given to Elizabeth Clare Prophet by Mother Mary.”

I do believe Mary accepted Christ as her Saviour – that she was born again and is in Heaven. But she is not an intercessor or Co-Redemptrix (hopefully I’m using the right Catholic terms). And any messages or apparitions supposedly from her are actually demonic counterfeits.

FOR FURTHER READING

Retta Blaney, A psychic guru prays the rosary: John Edward’s new book promotes the ancient prayer – A Catholic article that details how Edward came up with his rosary concept; barely mentions Downey.

David J. Stewart, Psychic John Edward EXPOSED!- a Baptist article exposing many occult teachings of Edward, including his use of the Rosary

Famous “Catholic” Psychic Says the Afterworld is Bipartisan  – A “conservative” Catholic article detailing and critiquing John Edward’s connections with Catholicism. (I oppose Catholicism, which has its own occult practices such as “praying” to the saints, praying for the dead, etc. But I agree with many of this writer’s criticisms of Edward.)

WARNING – The following four YouTube audios are recommended only for born again Christian researchers. I hesitate to even post these here. Please give your feedback. If you feel including these four audios is “crossing the line”, I will remove them from this blog. These four audios contain the content of the CD included with Edward’s book. First Downey prays the idolatrous Rosary entirely the “normal” way, then Edward prays the idolatrous Rosary entirely using his method. It’s creepy, hearing a psychic medium pray the Rosary – yet Downey goes right along with Edward in this idolatrous  project:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8K1eeTqdozY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WU_jR9550Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJKzNlAsiHA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LklR8IdEcME

 

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Click below for the various parts of this series on New Ager Roma Downey (and husband Mark Burnett):

Like Oprah, New Agers Roma Downey and hubby Mark Burnett now falsely claiming they’re Christians – why?

Roma Downey’s comments about “Touched by an Angel” show she is not a Christian as she claims, but a New Ager

Roma Downey’s comments about her ties with New Thought/New Ager Della Reese  show Downey is not a Christian as she claims, but a New Ager

Roma Downey’s comments about her “Little Angels” series show she is not a Christian as she claims, but a New Ager

Roma Downey’s comments about her New Age “Spiritual Psychology” degree show she is not a Christian as she claims, but a New Ager……

NEW: Roma Downey’s comments and connections with psychic medium John Edward show she is not a Christian as she claims, but a New Ager

Roma Downey’s comments about her theology show she is not a Christian as she claims, but a New Ager

Roma Downey’s comments about her “biographical trivia” show she is not a Christian as she claims, but a New Ager

NEW: New blogs I’m working on, showing in Downey and Burnett’s own words that they are not Christians as they claim, but New Agers

Note – all above blogs © 2012-2014 Dave Mosher, all rights reserved. Excerpts may be quoted up to 300 words, as long as credit is given to my original blogs and links provided to my original blogs. Thank you.

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(revised 08/10/13)

Roma Downey’s comments about her New Age “Spiritual Psychology” degree show she is not a Christian as she claims, but a New Ager

In the Wikipedia article about Roma Downey I noticed this fact: “Roma graduated from the University of Santa Monica with a master’s degree in Spiritual Psychology.”

On a technical note, this blog says Downey “will graduate in June”; it was written Apr. 23, but doesn’t say what year. I looked back at several previous blogs – the Mar. 25 blog refers to “this Sunday, March 28.” Which would mean the Downey blog was written Apr. 23, 2010. So apparently Roma Downey graduated from USM in June 2010.

What exactly is “Spiritual Psychology”? Is it “New Age”? Bingo, you’re correct! I’m going to quote from several sources here, to explain Spiritual Psychology and Downey’s involvement.

This discernment article (which unfortunately says we should give “The Bible” a chance by watching it and discussing it with nonbelievers) nonetheless contains much helpful info on Downey. Such as:

I think, without question, [Della] Reese has had an influence over Downey’s view of God, and possibly that of Burnett, as well. However, even if she hasn’t [obviously she has, as I showed in another blog], Downey definitely has been exposed to the New Age having earned a degree in spiritual psychology from the University of Santa Monica (USM). (Charisma)

Lest one think this is a fully accredited four-year university with degrees in several schools; it is not. USM only offers an advance degree in “Spiritual Psycology”. If there is any question as to whether this is tied into New Age thought one only has to look to the founder of USM, Roger Delano Hinkins [I added this link-DM], who goes by the name, John-Roger. Hinkins, or John-Roger, is a prominent New Age author and teacher.

And here’s  what I found about Spiritual Psychology at the Santa Monica Spiritual Psychology website:

“Spiritual Psychology is the study and practice of the art and science of human evolution in consciousness… “surrendering” and “sacrificing” is work that can and has been called “healing,” which includes healing on the physical, mental, and emotional levels in service to the deeper revelation of who we truly are as Loving, Peaceful, Compassionate, and Joyful beings. We refer to this level of awareness as the Authentic Self

Put another way, Spiritual Psychology is a technology that empowers students to convert their everyday life experience into rungs on the ladder of Spiritual Evolution

Change is taking place at an unprecedented pace on our planet… From within the Context of Spiritual Psychology, the only way to truly promote peace is for there to be more peaceful individuals living in the world.

… assuming we get through the current challenges, these very same skills will be highly valued as we transform into a more peaceful, highly globalized world.”

Regarding the University of Santa Monica, this Wikipedia article states, [founder Roger Delano Hinkins was joined by] “Dr. H. Ronald Hulnick and Dr. Mary R. Hulnick (former faculty members at New Mexico State University), who shortly thereafter took on the roles and responsibilities as President and Academic Vice President, respectively.” And in Google’s “Book” section, I found this book: Loyalty to Your Soul: The Heart of Spiritual Psychology,  by H. Ronald Hulnick, Ph.D., Mary R. Hulnick, Neale Donald Walsch. The New Age Roma Downey provides this glowing endorsement (viewable online) near the beginning of the book as follows:

“As a USM [University of Santa Monica] graduate, I know firsthand the value I received from participating with Ron and Mary in the Master’s degree Program in Spiritual Psychology. I am so grateful to have Loyalty to Your Soul to sweetly remind me of all I have learned. Let’s just say that I went from playing an angel on TV to living more of an angelic life every day. The teachings in this beautiful book have sent me on a journey to the very center of my own being where, wrapped in the safe wings of Love, I feel as though I have come home.”

For more info on the above book on Spiritual Psychology, see the book’s home page here.

Finally, a quote from this source:

“Roma also attends the University of Santa Monica, a private graduate school founded by New Age spiritual and self-help guru John-Roger, and will graduate with a master’s degree in spiritual psychology in June [2010].

‘As someone who has been on a spiritual journey for many years [so basically Downey admits she has been a New Ager for many years - notice she doesn't say here she's been "a Christian" for many years], it seems a natural extension of that work,’ says the lady still seen in Hallmark Channel reruns as angel Monica. She notes, ‘The skills I’m learning will ultimately qualify me to be a therapist’ — not that she has plans to start a practice anytime soon. ‘It’s really so interesting to learn about human behavior.’

And other matters.

Says Roma, who lives in Malibu, ‘My kids go to school about a 40-minute drive away. I’m open to the group’s opinion about what we listen to on the way there. On the way back, I get my own selections — books on tape by Eckhart Tolle, Tony Robbins…My husband says I’m so self-realized I’m practically levitating.’

And Downey, a Spiritual Psychology major who listens to Eckhart Tolle and “practically levitates”, is co-producing “The Bible”? This is pretty heretical – not to mention all her other New Age statements quoted in my other blogs.

This article by Kate Nesbitt gives a New Age definition of Spiritual Psychology.  Note that 1) the writer graduated from the same school as Roma Downey. And 2) Downey has stated elsewhere recently that she hopes to become a “therapist” (similar to Kate Nesbitt, I assume).

Sooo… when did Downey supposedly become a Christian? Before or after getting a Master’s degree in Spiritual Psychology? And perhaps Downey received this degree near the same time she was “contemplating” a production of “The Bible”.  Sounds to me like Downey is claiming to be a “Christian” in the same way Oprah Winfrey is claiming to be a “Christian.” It would be interesting to see Downey go on an Oprah show as a guest. Wouldn’t that be a hoot, seeing one famous New Ager who insists she’s a Christian talk with another famous New Ager who insists she’s a Christian.

Would Christians like “The Bible” if it were produced by Winfrey, or Shirley MacLaine, or Deepak Chopra? Seems to me like Roma Downey is just as bad.

FOR FURTHER READING

John-Roger Hinkins (aka John-Roger, J-R, born Roger Delano Hinkins)

Google list of many articles on Hinkins (Christian discernment articles, secular articles opposing Hinkins, secular articles favoring Hinkins)

Christian discernment articles exposing Hinkins:

Apologetics Index, Movement of Spiritual Inner Awareness (MSIA)

Christian Research Institute (CRI), The Movement of Spiritual Inner Awareness (MSIA)

Secular counter-cult articles exposing Hinkins:

John Roger and MSIA (first of a series of articles)

The Origins of the Movement of Spiritual Inner Awareness (MSIA)

MSIA articles about their own history and teachings:

Early History and Organization [of MSIA]

Neale Donald Walsch (co-author of the book Downey endorses above):

Berit Kjos’ revealing article exposing a number of Walsch’ occultic quotes

I am currently in the process of adding more info to this blog – keep  checking back. And thank you for your patience. New info on Roma Downey and hubby Mark Burnett is coming out almost daily – it’s hard to keep up with!

© 2012-2014 Dave Mosher, all rights reserved. Excerpts may be quoted up to 300 words, as long as credit is given to my original blogs and links provided to my original blogs. Thank you.

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Click below for the various parts of this series on New Ager Roma Downey (and husband Mark Burnett):

Like Oprah, New Agers Roma Downey and hubby Mark Burnett now falsely claiming they’re Christians – why?

Roma Downey’s comments about “Touched by an Angel” show she is not a Christian as she claims, but a New Ager

Roma Downey’s comments about her ties with New Thought/New Ager Della Reese  show Downey is not a Christian as she claims, but a New Ager

Roma Downey’s comments about her “Little Angels” series show she is not a Christian as she claims, but a New Ager

Roma Downey’s comments about her New Age “Spiritual Psychology” degree show she is not a Christian as she claims, but a New Ager ……

NEW: Roma Downey’s comments and connections with psychic medium John Edward show she is not a Christian as she claims, but a New Ager

Roma Downey’s comments about her theology show she is not a Christian as she claims, but a New Ager

Roma Downey’s comments about her “biographical trivia” show she is not a Christian as she claims, but a New Ager

NEW: New blogs I’m working on, showing in Downey and Burnett’s own words that they are not Christians as they claim, but New Agers

Note – all above blogs © 2012-2014 Dave Mosher, all rights reserved. Excerpts may be quoted up to 300 words, as long as credit is given to my original blogs and links are provided to my original blogs. Thank you.
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Roma Downey’s comments about her theology show she is not a Christian as she claims, but a New Ager

[Note - I've repeated much of the following info in this blog about "Touched by an Angel".]

Closely study reruns of “Touched by an Angel” and I’m sure you’ll find many heretical New Age views held by both Roma Downey and New Thought/New Age co-star Della Reese. There is much evidence that Downey is not a Christian as she claims, but a New Ager.

Check out the following quotes from Downey, found here. I have emphasized certain points by bolding, and inserted comments in [brackets].

“It’s fantastic that [the Touched by an Angel reruns are] on GMC,” says Downey. “It’s reaching a whole new generation of people with its beautiful message of faith. I loved being on that show. I loved it. I loved playing Monica. I loved being the messenger, the believer. I loved being part of a message that went out weekly reminding people there is a God and this is God’s purpose for you and God will be part of your life and most importantly that God loves you.

“I got to deliver that message every week for almost 10 years to millions of people a week.”

“Still to this day, wherever I am in airports or shopping malls people tell me, ‘Oh, that show has changed my life.’ or ‘That show helped my family heal’ or ‘You’ll never know what that show did for us’ and so I’m thrilled that it’s back at a regular spot in the television and has a chance to heal and touch people’s lives all over again. [I don't see any wording here about bringing people to salvation through the Father's only begotten Son Jesus Christ, do you? I guess that would be rather difficult for "Touched by an Angel" to do, considering the 212-episode series  has never - that I know of - mentioned the name of Jesus Christ.]

“I’ve been there, too, needing an angel — I can tell you. Over the years I’ve found myself wishing sometimes my angel would show up. [So Downey would want to communicate with angels? I'm not surprised. By the way, the Bible forbids communication with angels - this insightful pdf article mentions this.] I could use a little uplift, a little reminder.

“And then you know, and it’s available to everybody at all times. You’ve just got to turn your attention into your own loving heart where God exists inside of all of us.” [This reminds me of the heretical Inner Light teaching of George Fox and the Quakers, "that of Christ in all men" - supposedly.]

“There’s a timeless quality to the story,” she says. “It was always stories of people at certain crossroads in their lives when a decision was to be made. The spirit [notice Downey doesn't say "the Holy Spirit" but rather uses the liberal/New Age term "the spirit"] would show up and help you make that good decision. You know, there’s no magic wand. Somebody didn’t come down and fix it for you. All we did as the angels was to come down and to remind you that you were a child of God [only a born again Christian is a child of God - nonchristians are offspring of Adam and "children of the devil" - see John 8:44 and I John 3:10] and God loves you and God wants the best for you, that God has a purpose for you and that you have to reach into your own heart to see it and believe it and then out of that place, make a good choice for yourself. [Again, "reach into your own heart" and "out of that place" are heretical New Age phrases.]

“It was very empowering in that way. It wasn’t some easy fix, because life isn’t filled with easy fixes. But when you pray and really trust and hand yourself over to God [notice she doesn't mention repenting of your sins and accepting Christ as your Saviour], you know that God has you and holds you in his heart and in his hands.

“You know there’s no better feeling.

“If I were to look back at my career, I think my greatest achievement is very simple.

“I’ve been able to make choices where I could glorify God.”

So there we have it – a bit of Downey’s theology in her own words. As we will see in my various blogs about Downey, she is extremely New Age. Several questions: would she say in the previous paragraph her New Age beliefs “glorify God”? And how does she define “God”? For that matter, how does she define the label “Christian” which she applies to herself? Like I said, she is not a Christian like she claims, but a New Ager.

I wonder how Downey’s beliefs would measure up, when it comes to this chart. In this comparison between the worldview of Christianity and the worldview of the New Age movement, I’m positive she would be New Age – if she were honest.

By the way, I perused this devotional book about “The Bible” as it was premiering. It is supposedly written by Downey and hubby Mark Burkett. But don’t be deceived by the biblically sound lingo found throughout the book. It sounds very different from Downey’s New Age statements in her quotes above. I’m going to take a wild guess here and speculate that portions of the book were written by ghost writers (perhaps some of the heretical “Christians” on “The Bible” Board of Advisors who have a better grasp on Christian lingo.)

I am currently in the process of adding more info to this blog – keep  checking back. And thank you for your patience. New info on Roma Downey and hubby Mark Burnett is coming out almost daily – it’s hard to keep up with!

Note – all above blogs © 2012-2014 Dave Mosher, all rights reserved. Excerpts may be quoted up to 300 words, as long as credit is given to my original blogs and links are provided to my original blogs. Thank you.

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Click below for the various parts of this series on New Ager Roma Downey (and husband Mark Burnett):

Like Oprah, New Agers Roma Downey and hubby Mark Burnett now falsely claiming they’re Christians – why?

Roma Downey’s comments about “Touched by an Angel” show she is not a Christian as she claims, but a New Ager

Roma Downey’s comments about her ties with New Thought/New Ager Della Reese  show Downey is not a Christian as she claims, but a New Ager

Roma Downey’s comments about her “Little Angels” series show she is not a Christian as she claims, but a New Ager

Roma Downey’s comments about her New Age “Spiritual Psychology” degree show she is not a Christian as she claims, but a New Ager

NEW: Roma Downey’s comments and connections with psychic medium John Edward show she is not a Christian as she claims, but a New Ager

Roma Downey’s comments about her theology show she is not a Christian as she claims, but a New Ager

Roma Downey’s comments about her “biographical trivia” show she is not a Christian as she claims, but a New Ager

NEW: New blogs I’m working on, showing in Downey and Burnett’s own words that they are not Christians as they claim, but New Agers

Note – all above blogs © 2012-2014 Dave Mosher, all rights reserved. Excerpts may be quoted up to 300 words, as long as credit is given to my original blogs and links are provided to my original blogs. Thank you.
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(revised 03/31/13)

Roma Downey’s comments about her ties with New Thought/New Ager Della Reese  show Downey is not a Christian as she claims, but a New Ager

Roma Downey has claimed to be a Christian for years, yet has in reality been a New Ager for years. I haven’t discovered exactly how the TV series “Touched by an Angel” came into being – nor why New Agers Downey and costar Della Reese were hired. I do know that Downey and Reese are closely bonded to this day.

I am coming across a great deal of info tying Downey with Reese. I have posted some excerpts below; click here for the original site of this info. I have emphasized certain points by bolding, and inserted comments in [brackets].

“Downey, who produced the 10-hour miniseries “The Bible” (Sunday [03/03/13], 9 p.m. History) with her husband, Mark Burnett (producer of “The Voice” and “Survivor”), spent nearly the next decade in Salt Lake City. Nine seasons and 212 episodes [of Touched by an Angel], all filmed in Utah.”  [Why Utah? Is there a cultic Mormon connection? There has to be a reason they selected Utah for the shooting site - this is a very unique location.]

“The biggest change came in 2007 when Downey married Burnett in a ceremony officiated by her former “Touched by an Angel” co-star, Della Reese” [This extremely New Age article mentions that Downey's 1995 marriage before Burnett was also officiated by Reese - and that Reese is godmother of one of Downey's children.  Most couples I know select a minister who agrees with their theology. So if Romey and Burnett are New Age, they would be comfortable with their "Reverend" friend Reese being New Age.]… There’s no safer place in the world than in the arms of Della Reese,” Downey said. [The safest place in the world for Downey is in the arms of a New Age "Reverend"? Just another sign that Downey is not a Christian but a New Ager.] “And I still see Della with regularity. My mother died when I was a child, and she stepped in to be my mother. And then, when we were filming together, her only daughter died. I stepped in to be her daughter. And we know that was a God thing that we were brought together to be family for each other.” [I get it - Downey and Reese care for one another. I don't mean to be insensitive here and overlook human love and compassion. But as a supposed Christian, why is Downey is giving credit to God for bonding her with a cult figure? Yet again, I maintain that Downey is in reality a New Ager claiming to be a Christian. And I suppose New Thought/New Age cult figure Reese would also claim to be a Christian.]

Does it concern you that Downey is so close to Reese? It should. I wonder how much of Reese’ heresies Downey has incorporated into her own theology. Quoting from the Wikipedia article about Reese, “In more recent times, she became an ordained New Thought minister in the Understanding Principles for Better Living Church in Los Angeles, California.” Here is the Wikipedia article on New Thought. And here is the “church” website where Reese is “Reverend”.

I am currently in the process of adding more info to this blog – keep  checking back. And thank you for your patience. New info on Roma Downey and hubby Mark Burnett is coming out almost daily – it’s hard to keep up with!

© 2012-2014 Dave Mosher, all rights reserved. Excerpts may be quoted up to 300 words, as long as credit is given to my original blogs and links are provided to my original blogs. Thank you.

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Click below for the various parts of this series on New Ager Roma Downey (and husband Mark Burnett):

Like Oprah, New Agers Roma Downey and hubby Mark Burnett now falsely claiming they’re Christians – why?

Roma Downey’s comments about “Touched by an Angel” show she is not a Christian as she claims, but a New Ager

Roma Downey’s comments about her ties with New Thought/New Ager Della Reese  show Downey is not a Christian as she claims, but a New Ager

Roma Downey’s comments about her “Little Angels” series show she is not a Christian as she claims, but a New Ager

Roma Downey’s comments about her New Age “Spiritual Psychology” degree show she is not a Christian as she claims, but a New Ager

NEW: Roma Downey’s comments and connections with psychic medium John Edward show she is not a Christian as she claims, but a New Ager

Roma Downey’s comments about her theology show she is not a Christian as she claims, but a New Ager

Roma Downey’s comments about her “biographical trivia” show she is not a Christian as she claims, but a New Ager

NEW: New blogs I’m working on, showing in Downey and Burnett’s own words that they are not Christians as they claim, but New Agers-

Note – all above blogs © 2012-2014 Dave Mosher, all rights reserved. Excerpts may be quoted up to 300 words, as long as credit is given to my original blogs and links are provided to my original blogs. Thank you.
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(revised 03/15/13)

Roma Downey’s comments about her “biographical trivia” show she is not a Christian as she claims, but a New Ager

I came across some insightful biographical info about Roma Downey, from an interview on the set years ago of “Touched by an Angel”. This should come as no surprise: she has continued to hold a number of New Age beliefs and practices. And yet, as of the premier of “The Bible” 03/03/13, she and hubby Mark Burnett are claiming in numerous interviews that they are born again Christians.

Such a theological position is impossible. The New Age worldview and the born again Christian worldview are mutually incompatible. A New Ager cannot be a truly born again Christian, and a truly born again Christian cannot be a New Ager. Either Downey and Burnett are New Agers, or they are born again Christians who have renounced all New Age beliefs and practices. The research I’ve done seems to show they are still New Agers masquerading – like Oprah Winfrey – as born again Christians.

In this blog I discuss some trivia Q&A that show just a portion of Downey’s beliefs. Specifically, she alludes to her Catholic,  interfaith and New Age beliefs. She  does not mention her New Thought friend Della Reese, her Celtic “Christianity” practices, etc. Click here  for the original article.

I have taken the remainder of this blog offline for revision. For more info, see the comments following this blog.

And, besides the revision, I am currently in the process of adding more info to this blog – keep  checking back. And thank you for your patience. New info on Roma Downey and hubby Mark Burnett is coming out almost daily – it’s hard to keep up with!

© 2012-2014 Dave Mosher, all rights reserved. Excerpts may be quoted up to 300 words, as long as credit is given to my original blogs and links are provided to my original blogs. Thank you.

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Click below for the various parts of this series on New Ager Roma Downey (and husband Mark Burnett):

Like Oprah, New Agers Roma Downey and hubby Mark Burnett now falsely claiming they’re Christians – why?

Roma Downey’s comments about “Touched by an Angel” show she is not a Christian as she claims, but a New Ager

Roma Downey’s comments about her ties with New Thought/New Ager Della Reese  show Downey is not a Christian as she claims, but a New Ager

Roma Downey’s comments about her “Little Angels” series show she is not a Christian as she claims, but a New Ager

Roma Downey’s comments about her New Age “Spiritual Psychology” degree show she is not a Christian as she claims, but a New Ager

NEW: Roma Downey’s comments and connections with psychic medium John Edward show she is not a Christian as she claims, but a New Ager

Roma Downey’s comments about her theology show she is not a Christian as she claims, but a New Ager

Roma Downey’s comments about her “biographical trivia” show she is not a Christian as she claims, but a New Ager

NEW: New blogs I’m working on, showing in Downey and Burnett’s own words that they are not Christians as they claim, but New Agers

Note – all above blogs © 2012-2014 Dave Mosher, all rights reserved. Excerpts may be quoted up to 300 words, as long as credit is given to my original blogs and links provided to my original blogs. Thank you.
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(revised 03/07/13)

Roma Downey’s comments about “Touched by an Angel” show she is not a Christian as she claims, but a New Ager

I have always felt very uncomfortable with the TV series “Touched by an Angel.” Why? Because I never, ever heard the characters mention the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. The closest they came (in the episodes I saw): I heard the tune (not the words) of  the Christmas carol “Silent Night.”

Also, I couldn’t help but notice that “Touched by an Angel” Roma Downey’s co-star, Della Reese, is a New Age-ish woman “preacher” in real life. (Click here for Della Reese’ Wikipedia bio. She teaches New Thought heresies.)

Christian discernment ministries have been writing exposés of  “Touched by an Angel” for years. With so much having been written already, there’s probably not much new info I can add here. I will, however, attempt to locate and repost Downey’s New Age comments regarding “Touched by an Angel” – comments which show she is not a Christian as she claims, but a New Ager.

For example, in this quote (found here) Downey describes what attracted her to try out for the part of Monica:

Chet Cooper: You are most recognized for playing Monica on Touched By An Angel. How did you come across the role and what did you first think of the character?

Roma Downey: It was pilot season of ‘94, and I was reading through endless junk scripts that were being sent my way. Typically the roles were to play his wife or his girlfriend—leading roles for women were few and far between. Suddenly a very unusual script turned up. “Now this is curious,” I remember thinking. Because I’m a person of faith [in other Internet articles, she uses phrases such as "on a spiritual journey" - a New Age phrase], the spiritual aspects got my attention. Also, the actress in me was delighted to read a show that had not one but two strong female roles—female angels. I was to audition for Monica, and I very much liked Della Reese, who of course ended up playing Tess. [Just a couple clues that Downey was New Age prior to "Touched by an Angel". See also my "trivia" blog mentioning biographical info prior to "Touched by an Angel". I'm not sure when Della Reese first got interested in New Age teachings.]

[Note - I've repeated much of the following info in this blog about Downey's theology.]

Closely study reruns of “Touched by an Angel” and I’m sure you’ll find many heretical New Age views held by both Roma Downey and New Thought/New Age co-star Della Reese.

Check out the following quotes from Downey, found here. I have emphasized certain points by bolding, and inserted comments in [brackets].

“It’s fantastic that [the Touched by an Angel reruns are] on GMC,” says Downey. “It’s reaching a whole new generation of people with its beautiful message of faith. I loved being on that show. I loved it. I loved playing Monica. I loved being the messenger, the believer. I loved being part of a message that went out weekly reminding people there is a God and this is God’s purpose for you and God will be part of your life and most importantly that God loves you.

“I got to deliver that message every week for almost 10 years to millions of people a week.”

“Still to this day, wherever I am in airports or shopping malls people tell me, ‘Oh, that show has changed my life.’ or ‘That show helped my family heal’ or ‘You’ll never know what that show did for us’ and so I’m thrilled that it’s back at a regular spot in the television and has a chance to heal and touch people’s lives all over again. [I don't see any wording here about bringing people to salvation through the Father's only begotten Son Jesus Christ, do you? I guess that would be rather difficult for "Touched by an Angel" to do, considering the 212-episode series  has never - that I know of - mentioned the name of Jesus Christ.]

“I’ve been there, too, needing an angel — I can tell you. Over the years I’ve found myself wishing sometimes my angel would show up. [So Downey would want to communicate with angels? I'm not surprised. By the way, the Bible forbids communication with angels - this insightful pdf article mentions this.] I could use a little uplift, a little reminder.

“And then you know, and it’s available to everybody at all times. You’ve just got to turn your attention into your own loving heart where God exists inside of all of us.” [This reminds me of the heretical Inner Light teaching of George Fox and the Quakers, "that of Christ in all men" - supposedly.]

“There’s a timeless quality to the story,” she says. “It was always stories of people at certain crossroads in their lives when a decision was to be made. The spirit [notice Downey doesn't say "the Holy Spirit" but rather uses the liberal/New Age term "the spirit"] would show up and help you make that good decision. You know, there’s no magic wand. Somebody didn’t come down and fix it for you. All we did as the angels was to come down and to remind you that you were a child of God [only a born again Christian is a child of God - nonchristians are offspring of Adam and "children of the devil" - see John 8:44 and I John 3:10] and God loves you and God wants the best for you, that God has a purpose for you and that you have to reach into your own heart to see it and believe it and then out of that place, make a good choice for yourself. [Again, "reach into your own heart" and "out of that place" are heretical New Age phrases.]

“It was very empowering in that way. It wasn’t some easy fix, because life isn’t filled with easy fixes. But when you pray and really trust and hand yourself over to God [notice she doesn't mention repenting of your sins and accepting Christ as your Saviour], you know that God has you and holds you in his heart and in his hands.

“You know there’s no better feeling.

“If I were to look back at my career, I think my greatest achievement is very simple.

“I’ve been able to make choices where I could glorify God.”

So there we have it – a bit of Downey’s theology in her own words. As we will see in my various blogs about Downey, she is extremely New Age. Several questions: would she say in the previous paragraph her New Age beliefs “glorify God”? And how does she define “God”? For that matter, how does she define the label “Christian” which she applies to herself? Like I said, she is not a Christian like she claims, but a New Ager.

By the way, I perused this devotional book about “The Bible” as it was premiering. It is supposedly written by Downey and hubby Mark Burkett. But don’t be deceived by the biblically sound lingo found throughout the book. It sounds very different from Downey’s New Age statements in her quotes above. I’m going to take a wild guess here and speculate that portions of the book were written by ghost writers (perhaps some of the heretical “Christians” on “The Bible” Board of Advisors who have a better grasp on Christian lingo.)

FOR FURTHER READING

Discernment articles by Christians

Don Closson, Is Being Touched by an Angel Enough?

Berit Kjos, Touched By An Angel – But Which Kind?

Let Us Reason Ministries, Touched by an Angel or…

Program Reviews: Touched by an Angel – includes some viewer comments favoring TBAA, but also some excellent Christian critiques

Warning – a number of the following links are nonchristian; I can recommend them for research only.

Click here for CBN’s article about “Touched by an Angel” executive producer Martha Williamson and her Interfaith Movement connections. CBN, which has become heretical – actually recommends Martha Williamson and “Touched by an Angel.”

Click here for the official “Touched by an Angel” episode guide, including detailed plots of each episode.

And check out the Wikipedia articles on Roma Downey and on her husband Mark Burnett.

Searching Amazon.com re: “Roma Downey” brings up a number of angel-oriented publications by Roma Downey. Also, click here for books, videos, etc. related to the “Touched by an Angel” TV series.

I am currently in the process of adding more info to this blog – keep  checking back. And thank you for your patience. New info on Roma Downey and hubby Mark Burnett is coming out almost daily – it’s hard to keep up with!

© 2012-2014 Dave Mosher, all rights reserved. Excerpts may be quoted up to 300 words, as long as credit is given to my original blogs and links provided to my original blogs. Thank you.

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UPDATE – For a lengthy list of links – including articles and blogs about “The Son of God” movie, see the links at the bottom of this “Oprah, Downey and hubby” blog…
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Click below for the various parts of this series on New Ager Roma Downey (and husband Mark Burnett):

Like Oprah, New Agers Roma Downey and hubby Mark Burnett now falsely claiming they’re Christians – why?

Roma Downey’s comments about “Touched by an Angel” show she is not a Christian as she claims, but a New Ager

Roma Downey’s comments about her ties with New Thought/New Ager Della Reese  show Downey is not a Christian as she claims, but a New Ager

Roma Downey’s comments about her “Little Angels” series show she is not a Christian as she claims, but a New Ager

Roma Downey’s comments about her New Age “Spiritual Psychology” degree show she is not a Christian as she claims, but a New Ager

NEW: Roma Downey’s comments and connections with psychic medium John Edward show she is not a Christian as she claims, but a New Ager

Roma Downey’s comments about her theology show she is not a Christian as she claims, but a New Ager

Roma Downey’s comments about her “biographical trivia” show she is not a Christian as she claims, but a New Ager

NEW: New blogs I’m working on, showing in Downey and Burnett’s own words that they are not Christians as they claim, but New Agers

Note – all above blogs © 2012-2014 Dave Mosher, all rights reserved. Excerpts may be quoted up to 300 words, as long as credit is given to my original blogs and links provided to my original blogs. Thank you.
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Like Oprah, New Agers Roma Downey and hubby Mark Burnett now falsely claiming they’re Christians – why?
(revised 03/15/14)

In July 2011, Roma Downey was interviewed in the cover story of the above New Age magazine. In the cover story, she did not claim to be a Christian. Rather, her lingo was New Age. (Click here for the article; warning – this magazine is extremely New Age/occult. )

And, in this extremely New Age article from Spring 2012, Downey and Burnett are pictured alongside New Age artist Roisin Fitzpatrick (they are buyers and endorsers of her artwork):


Fast forward to 02/27/13, when Bill O’Reilly interviews Roma Downey and husband Mark Burnett, regarding their TV miniseries “The Bible” premiering 03/03/13. In the interview, O’Reilly says there are many passages in the Bible he does not take literally.  Click here for an article about the interview; this exposé of Bill O’Reilly’s unbelief is excellent.  But it strikes me as strange that Downey paints herself as a biblically sound Christian. In the interview, she claims she is a Christian and believes the Bible literally.

And O’Reilly’s is not the only interview in which Downey (and Burnett) paint themselves as Christians. In all their interviews today outside of New Age venues, this couple almost glows in their “Christianese” talk. Example: this PBS interview, which includes a transcript. (I’m hoping to compile a list of all their interviews publicizing “The Bible”.)

Yet, in New Age venues like those described above, “Christian” Downey uses the lingo of a New Ager. What’s going on here? Why the chameleon-like behavior?

At the very least, as New Age business people, Downey and Burnett are trying to tap in to the huge Christian market. (Perhaps  Downey and Burnett are also making a veiled attempt to share some New Age teachings via “The Bible”, after gaining the trust of born again Christians.)

Interestingly, evangelical heretics Joel Osteen, Rick Warren and T.D. Jakes just happen to be on the Board of Advisors of “The Bible”. And Osteen, Warren and Jakes are also currently appearing on New Ager Oprah Winfrey’s shows.

Regarding Oprah, she is now conveniently claiming (falsely, like Downey and Burnett) to be a “Christian”. Read the details about Oprah here (thank you, Stand Up for the Truth, for this great exposé).

Joel Osteen a guest of Oprah’s (click to read more)

And these four scoundrels together:

Click here for the source of this group photo. Interestingly, this photo appeared in 2011 – the same year Downey received a cover story in the New Age magazine pictured above. Osteen heads the largest church in America. If he were a godly man, he would hang around with godly people, right?  Why are Osteen and his wife palling around with Downey and Burnett? Certainly they know Downey and Burnett are New Agers. (Click here and here for articles connecting Osteen with Downey and Burnett. And click here for an audio explaining that Osteen has a New Age worldview.)

Rick Warren a guest of Oprah’s (click to read more)

T.D. Jakes a guest of Oprah’s (click to read more)

I believe God will hold Downey, Burnett and Winfrey accountable for falsely representing themselves as Christians. And I believe God will also hold Osteen, Warren and Jakes accountable for “aiding and abetting” them.

Before I proceed, I want to get one thing straight. I’m not writing this blog to attack anyone who is truly born again. Rather, I am concerned for the Body of Christ – true, born again Christians – who are being deceived into following/admiring New Age “Christians” and heretical evangelical Christians.  God’s Word speaks of those who would deceive us: “Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves” (Matt. 7:15).

Now let’s take a closer look at Downey and Burnett. As alluded to above, it can be shown that their lingo changes with the venue of their interview. At various places on the Internet, they write like New Agers. Yet in Christian settings they maintain they are Christians, then proceed to explain why.

Note – in my early research I got the impression that “Christians” Downey and Burnett were not labeling themselves as “born again”, “saved”, “converted”, etc. during Christian interviews. But as it turns out, they are using these terms for themselves – which makes their “Christianity” that much more insidious if they are falsely representing themselves as born again Christians.  And there is no doubt in my mind that they are indeed falsely representing themselves.

I realize Winfrey, Downey and Burnett are not alone. Many New Agers call themselves “Christians”. But a New Ager cannot be a true, born again Christian, and a true, born again Christian cannot be a New Ager. God’s Word tells us that “the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death” (Rev. 21:8).

In the rest of this series, I will quote various statements by Downey.  I will show, in her own words, that she is not a Christian (i.e. a born again Christian), but a New Ager.

In closing, it should be noted that Downey and Burnett are currently making the rounds, attending interviews in  Christian settings (and secular settings). Hopefully a Christian interviewer will be discerning enough to ask Downey specific, hard hitting questions such as:

1) In various interviews you have stated you are a Christian and have known Jesus all your life.  (In some interviews you have stated you “have known Mary and Jesus” all your life.} How do you define “Christian”? According to my Bible, all true Christians have been “born again”. When exactly did you become born again? That is, when did you have that “crisis conversion experience”? (That is, the specific event on a certain date truly born again Christians point to, when they repented of their sinful past and accepted Jesus Christ as their Saviour.) Also, please explain your understanding of John Chapter 3, in which Jesus describes how to be born again.

2) Do you believe Jesus is the only way to Heaven? Or do you believe many paths lead to God? How do you explain this verse?: “Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me”  (John 14:6).

3) Do you believe most people – regardless of their religion – will make it into Heaven? If so, how do you explain this passage? “Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it” (Matt. 7:13-14).

3) In your worldview, how does God determine who makes it into Heaven, and who does not? Do you believe this passage?: “He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.” (John 3:18-19).

4) Do you believe in the eternal punishment of the wicked (those who reject Christ) in the Lake of Fire, as the Bible says? If not, how do you explain this passage?: “the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death” (Rev. 21:8).

5) You say you have been born again. According to this verse, a person who is born again will forsake their old, sinful ways: “Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new” (II Cor. 5:17). Have you forsaken your sinful, ungodly beliefs? Specifically, have you renounced the false teachings of the following: Roman Catholicism, Celtic “Christianity”, Della Reese (New Thought), John Edward (Rosary-praying psychic medium), John-Rogers (New Age), Eckhart Tolle (New Age), etc.? If you have not forsaken any of these false teachings, how can you claim to be born again?

Bottom line: there’s been enough softball in the Christian interviews conducted thus far. It’s about time Christian interviewers start bombarding Downey and Burnett with hardball questions like the above, asking what they truly believe.

Addendum 03/12/13: Summary of my findings to date
(I realize some of this may be a repetition of the above)

Some viewers of “The Bible” may think Downey has changed – that she was New Age but is now a born again Christian. NOT! For one, Downy and her hubby are both claiming that Downey has been a “person of faith” all her life. Yet, even today there is no mention of a true conversion experience in Downey’s life.

Up until Downey’s 2010 graduation from the University of Santa Monica (with a degree in New Age “Spiritual Psychology”) and shooting of “The Bible”, one could find many references to Downey being New Age. New Age statements and connections can still be found occasionally after 2010 – with a lot of searching. Downey and Burnett seem to be trying to sweep their New Age connections under the rug as they court the Christian market.

Downey’s so-called “Christian faith”/spiritual journey seems to be an occult New Age smorgasbord of Roman Catholicism, Celtic “Christianity”, Della Reese (New Thought), John Edward (Rosary-praying psychic medium), John-Rogers (New Age), Eckhard Tolle (New Age), etc. Not to mention a New Age obsession with “angels” (who in “Touched by an Angel” never mention Jesus) and “miracles” (in the “It’s a Miracle” TV series these usually consist of occult manifestations).

On top of all this, in recent years Downey and her hubby seem to have adopted theological bits and pieces from heretic Joel Osteen (evangelical prosperity gospel, positive thinking), heretic Rick Warren (evangelical seeker sensitive, global P.E.A.C.E. Plan), heretic T.D. Jakes (evangelical prosperity gospel, hints of Jesus-Only/Oneness Pentecostalism), etc.

So where does Downey stand today? I do not believe she is a born again Christian as she is painting herself to be. In various interviews, she’s implying that she’s known Jesus all her life, that she’s born again, and that she’s accepted Jesus as her Saviour. Yet nowhere have I heard Downey testifying of a conversion to true Christianity – repenting of her many years following an ungodly New Age mishmash, being born again, accepting Christ as her Saviour so she won’t receive eternal torment in Hell/the Lake of Fire.

FOR FURTHER READING

NEW – CHRISTIAN ARTICLES  CRITIQUING “SON OF GOD” MOVIE DEBUTING 02/28/14

Sarah Pulliam Bailey, Why Pastors Like Rick Warren Are Renting Out Theaters for ‘Son of God’ Premiere

CNBC press release: Church Leaders Launch National “Theater Take-Over” Campaign for Son of God Movie

Michael Gryboski, Roma Downey and Mark Burnett: ‘Son of God’ a ‘Love Story’ for an ‘Under-Served’ Audience

The Last Hiker, The “Son of God” Movie Is NOT What We Think–Do You Know The Voice of Your Master

Lighthouse Trails editors, A Word of Caution: Ecumenical-Backed Movie, “Son of God,” May Send Subtle New Age/Roman Catholic Messages

pjmiller, Roma Downey and Mark Burnett’s ‘Son of God’ Film

Carol Pipes, Rick Warren and LifeWay to release ‘Son of God’ study

Stand Up for the Truth!, Religious leaders of all stripes endorse Son of God movie

Marsha West, Addressing concerns over “Son of God” film

Dr. Randy White, Questions to Ask While Watching “The Son of God”

“SON OF GOD” MOVIE REVIEWS (MOSTLY NEGATIVE)

The Hollywood Reporter, ‘Son of God': What the Critics Are Saying

Ann Hornaday, ‘Son of God’ movie review: Undoubtedly sincere, but also simplistic (Washington Post)

Kenneth R. Morefield, “Son of God” (in Christianity Today)

Sheila O’Malley, “Son of God” (on rogerebert.com)

Rotten Tomatoes website, “Son of God”has links at bottom to movie clips, plus links to many reviews

Stephen Whitty, ‘Son of God’ review: A TV miniseries gets a big-screen re-edit  (Newark, NJ Star-Ledger)

“THE BIBLE” TV
MINISERIES

Various discernment articles on “The Bible” revealed a number of doctrinal errors/heresies. (Click here for the Wikipedia article on “The Bible” TV miniseries. This production reminds me of Mel Gibson’s “The Passion of the Christ”, which has also received a number of critical reviews from discernment ministries.)

Secular articles, Mormon articles, etc.

The Salt Lake Tribune, Roma Downey felt ‘inspired’ to bring ‘The Bible’ to TV

“Softball” Christian interviews with Roma Downey about “The Bible” and her “Christian faith”

Focus on the Family interview (text summary)
Focus on the Family interview (53 minute audio)

Lifeway interview

“Christian” articles painting  Downey and Burnett as “born again”

The Christian Diarist, Hollywood Christian Couple Brings “The Bible” to TV – A big red flag here: this writer favorably describes Downey and Burnett’s visit to heretic Rick Warren’s Church.

Christian discernment articles critiquing “The Bible”, Roma Downey and Mark Burnett

Note – The articles below critique “The Bible”; some also detail Downey and Burnett’s New Age beliefs:

Beginning and End, The Bible Miniseries: Hollywood Heresy (03/17/13) – an excellent article, covers many heresies in “The Bible” as well as the New Age beliefs of Roma Downey
81 minute audio (blog radiocast) of the above article (wording varies somewhat)

Erin Benziger of Do Not Be Surprised, The Word Made… for Television?

Erin Benziger, Roman Catholic Roma Downey, Producer of ‘The Bible’ Miniseries, Says Francis I Will Be a ‘Pope of Hope’

The Berean Call, The Bible Mini-Series

christopher152, Beware of Roma Downey and Mark Burnett’s other “Jesus”

Coercion Code, The Bible Miniseries – Another Jesus (this article reposts the blog by Beginning and End, and adds more photos and more links)

Emergent Pillage, A serious reason for concern about “The Bible” miniseries – discusses Roma Downey’s New Age Spiritual Psychology degree from the New Age University of Santa Monica

The End Time, Why I am not watching History Channel’s “The Bible”

Grace Satisfies,  Why I Hesitate to Support “THE BIBLE” Mini-Series – This article slams Joel Osteen and T.D. Jakes for their influence in the writing of  “The Bible”. (I believe further research would show many of the advisors and consultants are as equally heretical as Osteen and Jakes.)

The Last Hiker, “WAKE UP!” — me screaming, then apologizing for some strange reason – a great exposé of Downey’s New Age beliefs

Mike LeMay, Did “The Bible” Series Help or Hurt Biblical Christianity? (04/01/13) – see also additional links following this blog

T.A. McMahon and Ed Newby, The Berean Call, Is The History Channel’s Mini-series ‘The Bible’ Really the Bible? (Part 1, 03/22/13)(audio and transcript)

Michael Norris, History Channel’s Bible Mini-Series Warning: New Age Spiritualist Roma Downey produces “The Bible” mini series for History Channel

Ratherexposethem, a web page with several sections of articles and links re: Roma Downey (scroll down)

Mike Ratliff, The History Channel’s Bible Miniseries Mishandling of God’s Word

Brent Riggs, Some Things You Should Know About the Bible Miniseries on History Channel

Chris Rosebrough, Theological Errors of the History Channel’s Miniseries “The Bible” – Pt. 1 (03/04/13)(a 57 min. audio file)

Chris Rosebrough, Rick Warren Lays Out the (False) Theology of the History Channel Miniseries “The Bible” (03/05/13)(an audio file)

Chris Rosebrough, Comparison of Pastors Sermon Prep (03/08/13)(an audio file, includes a segment critiquing The Ten Plagues in “The Bible” miniseries)

Chris Rosebrough, Theological Errors of the History Channel’s Miniseries “The Bible” – Pt. 2 (03/11/13)(an audio file)

Chris Rosebrough, History Channel’s Purpose-Driven Rewrite of the Story of Sampson (03/12/13)(an audio file)

Chris Rosebrough, The False “Jesus” of the Miniseries, “The Bible”
(03/18/13)(an audio file)

Sunny Shell (Abandoned to Christ), History Channel’s ‘The Bible’ exalts man over God

William Smith (Beacon2Light), The Bible: History Channel Series — Watch It with Your Eyes and Bibles Wide Open  (03/02/13)

William Smith (Beacon2Light), Beginnings: My Thoughts after Viewing Episode One of The Bible Miniseries (03/05/13)

Stand Up for the Truth!, Jim Wallis produces commentaries for “The Bible” (03/19/13) – Wallis, a leftist activist, leads Sojourners. This blog by Stand Up for the Truth! is followed by links  to five additional articles exposing the heresies of “The Bible”.

Stand Up for the Truth!, Something HUGE is missing from the Last Supper! – this includes a repost of Sunny Shell’s blog, plus a number of comments made to Stand Up for the Truth!

Stand Up for the Truth!, Saying “No” to promoting blasphemous “The Bible” docudrama  – interview with Sunny Shell of Abandoned to Christ

Bob Waldrep, The Bible Comes to Prime Time

Jared Wellman, The Bible” Review: Part 1

WND, Just how unbiblical is ‘The Bible’?

Some reader comments on “The Bible”, Downey as a New Ager, etc.

AND FOR FURTHER RESEARCH

Oprah Winfrey

David J. Stewart, Oprah Winfrey’s Teachings EXPOSED! –  This excellent exposé was written around 2001. She has become much more New Age/occult since then. Do no be deceived – again, she is not a Christian as she is claiming today, but is a New Ager.

Lighthouse Trails, Erwin Lutzer’s Warning Falls Short – This blog explains how many Christians oppose New Ager Oprah Winfrey, yet are letting New Age contemplative teachings invade their churches: “While it is commendable when Christians identify and issue warnings against New Age teachers like Oprah Winfrey and Eckhart Tolle (which Lutzer did), it is troubling when those same Christian leaders who warn against the New Age do not mention at all those who are teaching and promoting contemplative [Richard Foster's Spiritual Formation] in the church. In fact, by listening to this two-part series by Lutzer, one would get the impression that the New Age is a problem the world has, not the church. Nothing could be further from the truth…”

Google list of many articles critiquing New Ager Oprah Winfrey for claiming she’s a Christian

T.D. Jakes

Google list of many articles connecting T.D. Jakes with New Age teachings

Joel Osteen

Christine Pack of the Sola Sisters, Joel Osteen a Consultant on Upcoming Bible Miniseries

Google list of many articles connecting Joel Osteen with New Age teachings

YouTube list of many videos connecting Joel Osteen with New Age teachings

Rick Warren

Rick Warren creates “The Bible”-Driven sermons, small groups – includes links to a number of additional articles about “The Bible”; thank you, “Stand Up for the Truth!”

Google list of many articles connecting Rick Warren with New Age teachings

YouTube list of many videos connecting Rick Warren with New Age teachings

Osteen and Warren

Marsha West, Rick Warren and Joel Osteen acquiesce to Oprah

I am currently in the process of adding more info to this blog – keep  checking back. And thank you for your patience. New info on Roma Downey and hubby Mark Burnett is coming out almost daily – it’s hard to keep up with!

© 2012-2014 Dave Mosher, all rights reserved. Excerpts may be quoted up to 300 words, as long as credit is given to my original blogs and links provided to my original blogs. Thank you.

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