I stumbled across a very revealing – and shocking – blog about Todd Bentley and other extremely dangerous Third Wave Pentecostal teachers. I am copying it verbatim here. Click here for the original blog. I am emphasizing certain points by bolding, and inserting comments in [brackets].
Targeting the Children: False Prophets Duping Christian Parents
Posted by Simplicity In Christ on April 27, 2008
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Todd Bentley, Patricia King, and Bob Jones, prophets of the Elijah List, what do they have in common? All three of them are targeting your children in order to lift them into a “third heaven” occultic sphere, using meditation, contemplative prayer, angels of light (satan and his demons), emotional manipulation, and blatant lies.
In the following video, Bob Jones, Todd Bentley, and Patricia King speak of this contemplative practice of entering into the “third heaven”:
KING: Todd, I remember years ago, you gave me a phone call and you said ‘Hey, I’ve just been soaking with Bob Jones and I’ve gone up into the “third heaven”‘ and all that. And it was all new to me; I’d never even heard of that kind of language before and I was SO hungry for it. But tell about the first time you met Bob and your encounters in the third heaven.
BENTLEY: The first time I met Bob was actually in Grants Pass, Oregon. We were sitting in a restaurant and I was really hungry; I knew Bob was a real seer prophet. I thought ‘Lord I’m going to get an impartation’. I’ve been having all these encounters and all these visions and experiences already soaking, but I thought ‘Lord I need to talk to somebody that’s been walking in this that’s really a senior prophet’. So when I met Bob, I thought ‘Lord, I’m going to get an impartation’ and I remember talking with Bob in a restaurant about going into the heavens and what it was and we were talking about the “third heaven”, going into the immediate abode, into that place, the dwelling place of God. And I thought ‘That’s awesome!’. I was hungry for it too; I wanted more! ‘Cause, up until that point, sovereignly God was just visiting me. And I was just waiting in His presence and sovereignly God was visiting me. And Bob said to me, he said, ‘We can go right now!’ And I said ‘What do you mean, we can go right now?! We can make the decision right now and enter into that realm of the spirit?’. And he said, “Sure we can! Don’t you have faith, boy?!’. Or something like that. (laughter) That what he said to me…
[…](description of occultic experience into the third heaven)[…]
KING: Well, I remember when you [Bentley] were telling me about it, I got so hungry for it. And right after that Bob was coming to a conference that we were having… I was going to just ask him all kinds of questions about this third heaven, I didn’t know, because I wanted to know. I wanted to experience God in a new way; and I think we all do; we’re all so hungry for Him, right? But I hadn’t caught yet, because you had told me about the experience but not the faith dimension, so I was just still thinking ‘Sovereignty’. God’s sovereignly going to move, take me out, well whatever. So I’m asking Bob questions and Bob, you said ‘Well, I do my raptures every day!’. I said ‘What do you mean, your raptures every day?’. He said ‘I go up every day!’. And I said ‘You go up EVERY DAY! I’d love to go up every day!’ And he said ‘Well, it’s by faith!‘…
A person’s FAITH supersedes God’s SOVEREIGNTY??
Bentley, Jones, and King declare they are going past the sovereignty of God into a contemplative heavenly experience. In scripture there is only one who declares himself to be as high as God — satan:
I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. Isaiah 14:14
9:00 minutes into the video:
JONES: A lot of people see a lot of different colors [when in the third heaven], but when I take the children up most of the time, they see the “white light“. And they see the white throne, and nearly everything they see up there is white! That’s what God IS, is white light! But you got all the colors in it. And up there they see one another as white light, for they ARE light.
KING: Wow! I remember you saying to me one time, you said, if you can teach children to ascend into the third heaven and live out of that place then you will have a generation that will not be affected by the devil because the devil can’t go there. Isn’t that profound!?
JONES: Yep! Well, youth and children they hardly have any problem at all going there, especially 6 to 12. They go right up and I’ve seen them take them up and turn them loose! And then after you turn them loose, the first thing they’ll do, they’ll tell you what they’ve seen. So a lot of times with them, I let them tell me what they’ve seen, and then I interpret it to them. And then sometimes I will say, ‘Okay, go up again and see what you see for me’. And I’ll tell you some of the most seer prophecies I’ve got, come from some of them 6, 7, 8 years old! And some of the conferences I’ve been in, when the youth go up, I’ll tell those, the speakers of the conferences, you want blessed, go let the children pray for you. And see, they go continually there! They haven’t been taught the doubt that we have here.
In this video of Bentley’s Lakeland Healing Revival in Florida, Bentley talks about an angel of light in regards to children:
6:42 minutes into the video:
We’re going to have an anointing service because the Lord spoke to me about families and He was going to visit. I saw the angel today that was going to visit the children. I saw the angel that only two times have I seen that is going to visit the children. I tell you what, there is a glory moving into the room. Just go ahead and just… Ohhhh! Get under that! Ohhh! Ohhh! Lord, let it move across the whole place! A drunken glory! Heavy, heavy, weighty, weighty, weighty glory! Smoky glory, Shekinah glory, in all the colors in the glory!…
On Bentley’s site:
Todd saw the Glory Cloud of Revelation… that is, the cloud that is the fullness of the Holy Spirit, the seven Spirits of God. The Lord also showed Todd in the vision, an old Punjabi sadhu (holy man) [Ed. note: mystic], by the name of Sundar Singh, who lived in India and evangelized throughout the world over a hundred years ago. The Holy Spirit spoke to Todd about a new release of prophetic revelation coming… Todd examines the significance of Sundar Singh in his vision as an example of the extraordinary relationship God wants us to have with Him. It’s a wonderful life of devotion, humility, daily discipline, worship and contemplative prayer that calls us daily to soak in and seek God’s manifest presence. (emphasis added)
From Wolf Tracks site:
Why would God give his children a vision of a contemplative who combined the East and West in his meditative disciplines? Is this where Todd Bentley’s ideas about visions, spirituality, and ’soaking’ prayer are coming from?
Why would God, indeed. Bentley, King, and Jones are occultic mystics, doing the works of the flesh, a form of godliness but denying the power thereof (2nd Timothy 3:5). The power of God is not in evidence, nowhere to be found in their false teachings.
The fruit of the Spirit (Galatians 5:22-23):
Love
Joy
Peace
Longsuffering
Gentleness
Goodness
Faith
Meekness
Temperance
The fruit or evidence of the Spirit is not false doctrines (heresies), excitement, shaking, barking, laughing uncontrollably, getting a shove from the preacher to be “slain in the spirit”, jumping in “the river”, etc., etc., etc…
Parents, please do not allow your children to be involved in these occultic experiences. Pay attention to what is being taught — not only their teachings but yours as well. Check EVERYTHING against the Word of God.
Todd said over and over again that the Lakeland “revival” was contagious and would go throughout the world … sadly, he seems to be right about that, as angel feathers, barking, gold dust, etc are now world wide.
He and Bob Jones stood on the Lakeland Stage and also spoke about vibrating and opening godly portals and closing demonic portals … teachings found NO WHERE in the Bible yet the professing Leaders of Christianity said nothing. And so it spread! If our Leaders would be Godly, God-fearing Leaders and would care about guarding/warning and feeding the sheep and disciple-ing (discipling?) them with the Word of God, we may not be in this mess … or perhaps not in it as deep as we are. It seems the entire Body is now infected with this Third Wave teaching and too unlearned to even know what they are into!!!
Good to “meet” you Dave,
Lee
IsChristSoonToReturn.blogspot.com
God has “exalted above all things (His) name and (His) WORD” – Psalm 138:2
Thanks, Lee, for the great points regarding Todd Bentley and Bob Jones. Good to meet you too! God bless you and keep up the good work – Dave
It is so sad that the whole thing surrounding Tod Bentley is without sound doctrine. People are perishing and looking for easy way out. It is sad that the church of Jesus Christ has neglected discipleship from the word go. The people at these rally’s are emotionally swept and seduced into the “vibe” Entering into heaven no longer requires one to be born again. Jesus is still the same and His guidelines will never change. Jesus Himself told the devil that it was written that man shall not live by bread alone but by every word the proceeds out of the mouth of God 2 Tim 3:16 is clear.
Thanks for the feedback, Andre. Great points! God bless you – Dave
Todd is currently in Tongaat South Africa. What he is doing is misleading and false. There is no biblical doctrine to find in the “show”. many of the people flocking to the meetings are wowed like II Th 2:9 The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders,
10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, 12 that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness. (NKJ). We see this happening before our very eyes. We pray that God would open the eyes of His people so that they would discern that the fruit of the Spirit is what is manifested when God is at work and not a freaky circus show. we pray for Todd to come to his senses and stop what he is doing.
Thanks for the info, Andre. God bless you! – Dave