Click below for the various parts of this series on New Ager Roma Downey (and husband Mark Burnett):
Roma Downey’s comments about her theology show she is not a Christian as she claims, but a New Ager …
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Now on to the current blog:
(revised 02/19/14)
Roma Downey’s comments and connections with psychic medium John Edward show she is not a Christian as she claims, but a New Ager
Shortly after “The Bible” TV miniseries came out, Whoopi Goldberg on The View mentioned that psychic John Edward had endorsed the movie. Whoopi seemed baffled as to why Edward would endorse the movie. To find the answer, I Googled on the the search string [“Roma Downey” “John Edward”].
I guess it should come as no surprise – I stumbled across several articles connecting self-proclaimed “Christian” Roma Downey with psychic medium John Edward. The Bible condemns occult practices such as those of John Edward. Seems to me this is powerful proof Downey is not a Christian as she claims, but a New Ager.
So far I have found two articles detailing Downey’s connections with Edward. I have reposted them verbatim below, to document these connections. I have emphasized certain points by bolding, and inserted comments in [brackets].
Exhibit #1
Roma’s TV chat to dead mother [in 2002](click here for the original source of this article)
Byline: DREW MacKENZIE in New York
ACTRESS Roma Downey has talked to her mother through a psychic on live TV.
The Derry-born Touched By An Angel star was a guest on a celebrity version of the US psychic show Crossing Over, hosted by medium John Edward.
Roma’s mother Maureen died of a heart attack in Derry when she was 10.
And Roma was heartbroken that she was never able to tell her how much she loved her.
So she jumped at an offer from the producers of the show on the Sci-Fi Channel to speak to her mum using Edwards for the connection.
Downey sat directly behind Edwards during the programme and he did not know who the celebrity he was speaking to was until he turned around at the end of the segment.
He was able to tell that the 41-year-old actress was caught in a hail of gunfire during an IRA gun battle 30 years ago which almost killed her.
Facing the audience, he said: “I hear you crying. I hear some sort of popping.
“The sort of popping I am hearing would mean there is some sort of gunfire or like someone was caught in a spray of bullets.”
And referring to the celebrity’s mother, he said: “She [the spirit of her mother] was commending and applauding what you do and how you do it.”
Roma said: “My mother was telling me that she was very proud of me and my work, it just made me want to weep.”
The psychic show will be aired in America tomorrow night.
CAPTION(S):
SEANCE: Downey
Exhibit #2
Roma Downey develops rosary concept with John Edward, includes her rosary CD in his book
Note: this Amazon link to the first edition includes a “Look Inside” link to read various pages online
And a reader comment on the second edition of the book (which also includes Downey’s CD) states: “John Edward came out with this brilliant concept with Roma Downey”.
Practical Praying: Using the Rosary to Enhance Your Life (click here for the original source of the article below)
Roma prays the entire rosary on the beautiful CD that comes along with this book. It’s quite lovely and gives you the special opportunity and a unique spiritual closeness to Roma to be able to pray right along with her as if she was right there at your side.
The book above by well-known author John Edward was published in April [2005]. Practical Praying is divided into three sections; the first includes Edward’s thoughts about writing the book and his own personal approach to prayer, as well as the history of the rosary in the Catholic Church. The second section discusses usage of the power of prayer through the rosary. The last section is the audio CD, which the author says is “one of my favorite parts of the book. It’s unbelievably beautiful.” Roma Downey refused to accept pay for her work, instead asking Edward to make a donation to Operation Smile in her name “so she could pay for more smiles,” he said.
You might enjoy purchasing one of Roma’s beautiful rosaries from her collection at QVC to use when listening to Roma’s beautiful voice or you may use them and pray the rosary with her.
For those that may be surprised that John Edward wrote a book all about the use of the rosary in your life, you may feel differently after reading a recent article Praying the Rosary [link not included] John Edward’s new book details his favorite ‘weapon of spiritual defense’ that ran recently in The Catholic Telegraph. Click on the link [broken link] to The Catholic Telegraph to read the full article. Although to many, including some Catholic clergy, they are not surprised at all. During the run of his popular [psychic medium] show, he always promoted the use of the rosary and shared that he prayed it daily. John Edward is an Irish-Italian Catholic. In regards to this specific book and his promotion of the rosary, he even received recently a papal blessing, signed by the current pope when he was still Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, head of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. [Wow – I’d like to research this further – the Pope is “God’s man on Earth.” All his decrees are (supposedly) infallible – yet he gave his blessing to Edward’s book??? Shocking.] The book has become quite popular with Catholics and non-Catholics alike.
Conclusion and thoughts
I’m wondering if Edward and Downey received some of their Rosary concepts from the teachings of New Ager Elizabeth Clare Prophet, who also developed her own brand of the Rosary back in 1972. Click here for a description of “the New Age Scriptural Rosaries given to Elizabeth Clare Prophet by Mother Mary.”
I do believe Mary accepted Christ as her Saviour – that she was born again and is in Heaven. But she is not an intercessor or Co-Redemptrix (hopefully I’m using the right Catholic terms). And any messages or apparitions supposedly from her are actually demonic counterfeits.
FOR FURTHER READING
Retta Blaney, A psychic guru prays the rosary: John Edward’s new book promotes the ancient prayer – A Catholic article that details how Edward came up with his rosary concept; barely mentions Downey.
David J. Stewart, Psychic John Edward EXPOSED!– a Baptist article exposing many occult teachings of Edward, including his use of the Rosary
Famous “Catholic” Psychic Says the Afterworld is Bipartisan – A “conservative” Catholic article detailing and critiquing John Edward’s connections with Catholicism. (I oppose Catholicism, which has its own occult practices such as “praying” to the saints, praying for the dead, etc. But I agree with many of this writer’s criticisms of Edward.)
WARNING – The following four YouTube audios are recommended only for born again Christian researchers. I hesitate to even post these here. Please give your feedback. If you feel including these four audios is “crossing the line”, I will remove them from this blog. These four audios contain the content of the CD included with Edward’s book. First Downey prays the idolatrous Rosary entirely the “normal” way, then Edward prays the idolatrous Rosary entirely using his method. It’s creepy, hearing a psychic medium pray the Rosary – yet Downey goes right along with Edward in this idolatrous project:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8K1eeTqdozY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WU_jR9550Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJKzNlAsiHA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LklR8IdEcME
PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE LISTENED TO DAVE MOSHER WITH HIS WARNINGS ABOUT ROMA DOWNEY
From: James Sundquist
Date: March 3, 2014 10:42:28 AM EST
To: Heather Garrett
Subject: James Sundquist response re Harvest Bible Chapel Promotion of Roma Downey Son of God movie and Rick Warren
Dear Heather Garrett,
I will remove you from my mailing list. But how do you expect me to answer your two questions if you censor me from being able to answer you, as did your Pastor Jamie Mitchell.
I will ask your questions nevertheless, with one for you.
Your email address is publicly posted on your church website. As to who I am, here is my bio: http://www.perfectpeaceplan.com/james.html
Now my question before you: Are you aware that your pastor Jerry Lingenfelter spoke for you and the group when he accused me of this Scripture:
Proverbs 26:4
King James Version (KJV)
4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.
Did you give him permission to do so?
I remind you of this Scripture warning of about calling Christian brothers a fool:
“But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.”
Matthew 5:22
The Bible describes a fool as someone who has said in their heart there is no God. I am a Christian so this is a very serious charge, effectively telling me I have borne false witness without anyone at Harvest Chapel, supplying a shred of proof.
I also remind you that if you have collaborated with him, that bearing false witness is an abomination to the Lord and slanderers will not enter the Kingdom of Heaven.
Like I said to your pastors, I will removed them from my mailing list, having warned them and Harvest Bible Chapel twice, but will publicly mark them and tell the whole church and sound the alarm on his Holy Hill, as Scripture commands that I name names.
I will also not divulge my church or elders to wolves in sheep’s clothing or wolf promoters, as your pastor Jamie Mitchell demanded. Were I to do so, then I would be a fool.
I pray that you all repent.
SIncerely in Christ,
James Sundquist
http://www.perfectpeaceplan.com
Who are you? And how did you get my email address?
From: James Sundquist [mailto:rock.salt@verizon.net]
Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2014 7:55 PM
To: sundquistjames7@gmail.com
Subject: Re Jamie Mitchell, Roma Downey & Rick Warren
Dear Members of Harvest Bible Chapel,
Your pastor, Jamie Mitchell, has now tried to censor you from hearing my warnings to you about Rick Warren and Roma Downey. But I pray that you will exercise spiritual discernment and be good Bereans to make that decision for yourselves.
This is further testimony on Roma Downey and Rick Warren:
Miguel Hayworth of Plumbline Apologetics in the UK total demolishes the principality of Roma Downey and The Bible on TV, which was the foundation for the Son of God movie at:http://www.firstplumbline.net/html/hope14bible.html
In both the TV series and the movie Jesus looks attractive, handsome and fair to look upon and Aryan. The real Jesus in Scripture looked the opposite and more resembled an Iraqi:
“He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.” Isaiah 53:3
Roma Downey and all of her apostate advisors couldn’t even get that right.
So you don’t have to pay to see a movie, whose own ads portray a myth of how Jesus looked. So don’t listen to the voices that say you have to pass (pay) for the movie in order to see what’s in it, any more than you would follow Saul’s example to visit the Witch of Endor to see your future…rather flee…don’t even go near the door as Proverbs warns about prostitutes.
Regarding Jamie Mitchell’s behavior, I invite you read this warning:
TO SPAM OR NOT TO SPAM THAT IS THE QUESTION:
http://www.perfectpeaceplan.com/post/tag/spam/
Finally, your pastor was confronted on this website:
I confirm their testimony.
Jamie Mitchell is trying to prevent you members of Harvest Bible Chapel from receiving this information. I hope you will heed these findings. He is not interested. Sometimes you have to be your own watchman on the wall when a pastor is derelict in his duty to protect you from Trojan Horses, wolves in sheep’s clothing, and servants of Satan masquerading as servants of righteousness.
Sincerely in Christ,
James Sundquist
http://www.perfectpeaceplan.com
BEWARE OF ROMA DOWNEY AND MARK BURNETT’S OTHER “JESUS”
“No wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. Therefore it is not surprising if his servants also disguise themselves as servants of righteousness, whose end will be according to their deeds.” 2 Corinthians 11:13-14
What do you call someone who is a student of new age psychology and spiritualism? Do you call them new agers? Do you call them seekers? Would you dare call them Christian? Well, if you’re Roma Downey, then yes, you would call yourself all the above.
Recently I was coming across one of the Christian channels and stumbled upon The Jim Bakker Show. On the program, Jim and his wife Lori, were hosting their special guests Roma Downey and Mark Burnett as well as musical guest Jason Crabb. It was such a weird mixture of evangelical mish-mash that I was lured in to watching the program myself to find out exactly what was going to happen. I was not disappointed.
As I sat and listened to Jim introduce his two guests (Downey and Burnett), I recalled their previous work on the History Channel’s The Bible and how they managed to literally re-write the Bible itself, and presented another gospel message altogether. I was captured by their (Downey and Burnett) aggressive but subtle attempt to portray themselves as “believers”. The sappy spiritual love fest that permeated on set showed me that something was indeed changing within Christianity, and that something was another Jesus being introduced to the masses.
It needs to be understood by all who read this article that some facts need to be addressed, and once they are laid out for all to see, then a genuine decision can be made as to why these two individuals are making inroads into mainline Christianity and what their true motives are.
Roma Downey, a devout Roman Catholic, along with her husband, were heavily influenced in new age spirituality. Downey graduated from the University of Santa Monica, a private graduate school founded by New Age spiritual and self-help guru John-Roger, and will graduate with a master’s degree in spiritual psychology in June [2010].
Roma went even further into her new age Catholic spirituality by teaming up with acclaimed psychic John Edwards and co-produced a CD for children to be used for meditation and enlightenment, while Edwards introduced the teachings of contacting the dead (necromancy). In the book, Loyalty to Your Soul: The Heart of Spiritual Psychology, by H. Ronald Hulnick, Ph.D., Mary R. Hulnick, Neale Donald Walsch. The New Age Roma Downey provides this glowing endorsement (viewable online) near the beginning of the book as follows:
“As a USM [University of Santa Monica] graduate, I know firsthand the value I received from participating with Ron and Mary in the Master’s degree Program in Spiritual Psychology. I am so grateful to have Loyalty to Your Soul to sweetly remind me of all I have learned. Let’s just say that I went from playing an angel on TV to living more of an angelic life every day. The teachings in this beautiful book have sent me on a journey to the very center of my own being where, wrapped in the safe wings of Love, I feel as though I have come home.”
Even further in regards to Ms. Downey’s position regarding spiritualism and her Catholic religion, Roma advocates the eastern mysticism teachings of Eckhart Tolle, another spiritual giant in the field of new age teachings, not to mention the connections Tolle has with Oprah Winfrey. But it’s fascinating to see such a connection that someone has to the world of the occult and then try to present a so called gospel message. Yet that’s exactly what Roma Downey and her husband are indeed doing, presenting another gospel, another Jesus.
Roma has consistently stated in past and current interviews that she is on a spiritual journey, not that she’s been “born again”, but that she regularly seeks a greater understanding of the world and the universe thru different means, namely spiritualism through higher intellectualism called spiritual psychology, where the mind connects to the energies surrounding the individual to gain a higher understanding of themselves and the world they live in. This is occultism 101.
It’s equally interesting to note that Roma Downey is close friends to Della Reese, the famed singer and actress, as well as founder and pastor of the church of Universal Foundation for Better Living. A Universal new age church which promotes mystic teachings and New Age Spirituality. It is also important to note that when one goes to miss Reese‘s church, its tenants has nothing to do with sin, for the concept of original sin is not accepted, nor is the concept that man is initially a sinner which needs a sinner, nor a Savior, for all men are God’s children, even the worse individual, so there is no need for repentance. Yet the word disputes this notion in Jeremiah 17:9. Yet it was Della Reese who influenced Roma as well as Downey’s husband Mark into seeking another gospel yet keeping some connections to their Catholic teaching, the combination between another Christ found in Catholicism and the addition of New Age spiritualism is a combination that seeks to do one thing, produce another gospel entirely. That is the agenda of those like Ms. Downey and her husband and the mere fact that Jim Bakker, a Pentecostal minister, who began his life preaching the gospel of Jesus Christ, but now supports and embraces this new gospel, only cements the belief the apostle Paul warned about in many of his letters to the church, that the time will come when men, having itching ears, will not endure sound doctrine. (2 Timothy 4:3)
This new gospel which is being presented is what we have been warned about which was coming long before its arrival, yet many Christians, not understanding what is being promoted and taught, mainly due to the lack of genuine teaching in most pulpits today in many churches across America, is producing an illiterate group of believers who will not know what type of gospel message, or worse, what type of Christ is being presented, and what’s worse, it’s notthe Jesus of the Bible, but another Jesus entirely. It is antichrist.
The gospel of Roma Downey and her husband Mark Burnett, is another Jesus, another gospel and another way, and if one accepts this Jesus, sadly, he will not save, nor redeem them, but condemn them for there is no truth in this Christ but only death, for his name is antichrist and he is the deceiver. Be warned.
Christopher
The Prophetic News
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Sincerely in Christ,
James Sundquist
http://www.perfectpeaceplan.com
Thanks for the info, James. Once again, great research! And I agree, we need to name all false teachers by name. Paul tells us to reprove, rebuke and exhort:
“Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine” ((II Tim. 4:2).
God bless you James, and keep up the good work – Dave